most unixy linux?

[vector]

I want to get started in Linux. Or at least I think I do. There are too
many distros to make sense of. Red Hat is ubiquitous, but seems to do
things a little different that actual Unix, like put system files in
non-standard locations. BSD seems to have poor Java support. Mandrake does
a good job of GUIfying tasks for the user, meaning I won't have to learn
much about what happens under the covers -- which is a Bad Thing.

I want an x86 Unix variant which is as much like Unix as possible, has
excellent Java support, plays well on a Windows network, and won't require
me to install X windows at all. If it helps, imagine that what I'm trying
to do is set up a Unix system at home a lot like the Old Days -- dumb
terminal clients, COBOL, analog modems, etc. Except I also need Java
support.

Which distro do I want?

[Lew Pitcher]

vector wrote:
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Post by vector
I want an x86 Unix variant which is as much like Unix as possible, has
excellent Java support, plays well on a Windows network, and won't require
me to install X windows at all. If it helps, imagine that what I'm trying
to do is set up a Unix system at home a lot like the Old Days -- dumb
terminal clients, COBOL, analog modems, etc. Except I also need Java
support.
Which distro do I want?

Slackware
http://www.slackware.com

To quote http://www.slackware.com/info/
The Slackware Philosophy
Since its first release in April of 1993, the Slackware Linux Project has
aimed at producing the most "UNIX-like" Linux distribution out there.
Slackware complies with the published Linux standards, such as the Linux
File System Standard. We have always considered simplicity and stability
paramount, and as a result Slackware has become one of the most popular,
stable, and friendly distributions available.

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Lew Pitcher

Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | GPG public key available on request
Registered Linux User #112576 (http://counter.li.org/)
Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing.

[Grant Coady]

Post by Lew Pitcher
To quote http://www.slackware.com/info/
The Slackware Philosophy
Since its first release in April of 1993, the Slackware Linux Project has
aimed at producing the most "UNIX-like" Linux distribution out there.
Slackware complies with the published Linux standards, such as the Linux
File System Standard. We have always considered simplicity and stability
paramount, and as a result Slackware has become one of the most popular,
stable, and friendly distributions available.

Seconded :o) I run windows + slackware, networked...

--Grant.

[Daniel James Koepke]

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Post by vector
I want an x86 Unix variant which is as much like Unix as possible, has
excellent Java support, plays well on a Windows network, and won't require
me to install X windows at all. If it helps, imagine that what I'm trying
to do is set up a Unix system at home a lot like the Old Days -- dumb
terminal clients, COBOL, analog modems, etc. Except I also need Java
support.
Which distro do I want?

Slackware
http://www.slackware.com
To quote http://www.slackware.com/info/
The Slackware Philosophy
Since its first release in April of 1993, the Slackware Linux Project has
aimed at producing the most "UNIX-like" Linux distribution out there.
Slackware complies with the published Linux standards, such as the Linux
File System Standard. We have always considered simplicity and stability
paramount, and as a result Slackware has become one of the most popular,
stable, and friendly distributions available.
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Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | GPG public key available on request
Registered Linux User #112576 (http://counter.li.org/)
Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing.
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Yeah, I will third that. I was looking for the exact same thing, the most
unixy gnu/linux and I ended up with slackware. Its a good one!

Dan

[Tony Lawrence]

Post by vector
I want an x86 Unix variant which is as much like Unix as possible, has
excellent Java support, plays well on a Windows network, and won't require
me to install X windows at all. If it helps, imagine that what I'm trying
to do is set up a Unix system at home a lot like the Old Days -- dumb
terminal clients, COBOL, analog modems, etc. Except I also need Java
support.
Which distro do I want?

What Unix is "Unixy" to you? Sunos, Solaris, HP, SCO, AIX ??

They are all "Unixy" to me, and all have different administration,
different sys admin tools, etc.

And any Linux is markedly different than any of them..

[Moe Trin]

In the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.questions, in article

Post by Tony Lawrence

Post by vector
I want an x86 Unix variant which is as much like Unix as possible, has
excellent Java support, plays well on a Windows network, and won't require
me to install X windows at all.

"UNIX" is a trademark, and can only be applied to those operating systems
that have paid the bux to be blessed by the Open Group. See the Unix FAQ
that is posted to comp.unix.questions, comp.unix.shell, comp.answers, and
news.answers every couple of weeks. "Legally" the only x86 UNIX is
probably Sloaris, which has even less hardware support than the BSDs.

Post by Tony Lawrence
What Unix is "Unixy" to you? Sunos, Solaris, HP, SCO, AIX ??

MOMMY!!! Tony said SEVERAL bad words!!! Wash his mouth out with soap!

Post by Tony Lawrence
They are all "Unixy" to me, and all have different administration,
different sys admin tools, etc.

Actually, looking at the first two (SunOS, a BSD derivative verses
Sloaris, a SysVr4 derivative) proves that there is no such thing as
a typical UNIX. Both of those are branded UNIX, and differ as much
as night and day. I supported both 4.1.3 (and 4.1.4) and 2.5.5 at the
same time (along with IRIX 6.x), and it used to drive me nuts trying
to remember the correct options to use with "identical" commands, like
'/bin/ps'.

Post by Tony Lawrence
And any Linux is markedly different than any of them..

Yup - there is a minor amount of standardization in Linux.

Lew suggested Slackware, to which I would add Debian and Gentoo. The
"popular" distributions like Fedora, Mandrake/Mandriva and SuSE can
(like any *nix) be admin'ed from the command line, but they are more
optimized for the GUI crowd.

Old guy

[Douglas O'Neal]

Post by vector
I want to get started in Linux. Or at least I think I do. There are too
many distros to make sense of. Red Hat is ubiquitous, but seems to do
things a little different that actual Unix, like put system files in
non-standard locations. BSD seems to have poor Java support. Mandrake does
a good job of GUIfying tasks for the user, meaning I won't have to learn
much about what happens under the covers -- which is a Bad Thing.
I want an x86 Unix variant which is as much like Unix as possible, has
excellent Java support, plays well on a Windows network, and won't require
me to install X windows at all. If it helps, imagine that what I'm trying
to do is set up a Unix system at home a lot like the Old Days -- dumb
terminal clients, COBOL, analog modems, etc. Except I also need Java
support.
Which distro do I want?

Solaris 10? http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/opensolaris.jsp

Can't be much more "unixy" than that...

Doug

[Lew Pitcher]

Post by Douglas O'Neal

Post by vector
I want to get started in Linux.

[snip]

Post by Douglas O'Neal

Post by vector
Which distro do I want?

Solaris 10?
Can't be much more "unixy" than that...

Doug, what part of "Linux distro" do you not understand? Or have Sun and Linus
Torvalds reached an agreement to call Solaris "Linux"?

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Lew Pitcher

Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | GPG public key available on request
Registered Linux User #112576 (http://counter.li.org/)
Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing.